Shrine & Meditation chamber of Hazrat Zaynuddin Soharwardy
[Meditation chamber: چلہ گاہ or چلہ خانہ] The son of Hazrat Ziauddin Abu Najib Suharwardy, may God sanctify their secrets! His tomb is in Tashkent, Uzbekistan.
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aslam o alyakum brother, i have some questions.is it possible to walk on the path while you are studying because when ever i try to concentrate more on sufism thoughts come in mind like its a very hard path and u cant focus on your studies while abandoning ur habbits,u need to fresh and calm urself while u r studying.with this struggle my studies are not going well.i try to practice the whole theory about taraq e duniya which is just geting rid of old useless habbits and some times i get succeeded in it,things go smoothly then some things happens like a cousin comes home pay me a visit or i meet with a friend or watch a movie anything like this which is not forbid in islam.after doing that one thing the whole practice of weeks and some times months get destroyed and i again fall in the old habbits.i some times feel so desperate that because of such small things like tv,computers and meaningless friendships i cant walk the path. it is written in sufi scriptures that in old days it was not allowed to practice the sufi teachings for a student unless he complete his studies.so is it really that difficult to practice sufism while one is a student or is it just a nafsani trap? one other thing i would like to ask is that it is written in the scriptures that the biggener should not abandon the world at once but do it slowly but this theory does not work in practical life.if one continues to meet old friends or do the same old habbits he will loose his courage or m i not understanding it correctly? in kemaya e sa'adat it is written and i will wirte the exact urdu words because my english is not that good which u have find out by now :) "nafs ki baaz sifat ghuse se baz narmi se baz guftar se or baz kirdar se mutagaier ho sakti hain" what i m not understanding is that if u left ur habbits like tv or internet once it is important for u to never use them again because i read it somewhere that nafs is like a goat,if u dont check it and left it for a second it will go miles backward. another thing is from maqtubat e sadi i think that nafs is like a hawk,u should colse its eyes with a cloth and shut it in a dark room, then feed it once in a while.now what does that mean?that u should give it some of the things that it adore or what? i some times think that i m not worthy of the company of those saints.i m reading there books since my teenage days but the path is still as dark as it was back then.some times i think to let it go because there r special people for every field and after 11 or 12 years of failure i m not one of them or i dont have the same intense love that the shaikhs have which drive them forwards. its such a long post and my questions r so confuse.i never share my thoughts with anyone and i m feeling sorry to take so much of ur precious time but i hope u will answer my questions in detail. God bless u brother.
though your post is very long but i really appreciate your questions, i mean, i also dont know how to get rid of my bad habbits, been trying so hard since long but...in vain
i would like to add some more questions in addition to yours...
1- what is the concept of sufism about music (its evident that many of our sufis and auliyas (A.S) have been linkedwith /known for music and/or musical instruments as well as poetry.
2- it is said that sufism is not practical rather philosophical (like greeks as an example) meaning it is said that they are not actively involved in jehad or other movements (which i dont believe is true as we have the example of Sayed Ahmed Shaheed R.A)
3- what is music by the way? imho its a way of communication NOT a luxury, its a way of expression like poetry (i believe, koi cheez haram nahi hoti lekin us ka estemal us cheez ko halal ya haram banata hey)
1. I've already posted the Sufis's opinion about music in detail here http://cyclewalabanda.blogspot.com/2008/01/sufi-music.html
2. You are right about Jihad, aside from Sayed Shaheed we have Imam Shamil, Shaykh Abdal Qadir & many other figures. The Sufis' conception of Jihad in Islam is given in a talk on this blog here: http://cyclewalabanda.blogspot.com/2008/12/sufism-jihad-by-hazrat-pir-naserruddin.html
3. Music is expression. Man is made up of mind body & soul, so through music he can express either or all of these 3, in different proportions.
Once again your opinion echoes that of the Auliya who say, the content & context of the music makes it good or bad.
I would add however, that loud electric music, hard rock, electronic/techno music, commercial music, disco, Hindi filmi music & pop etc. are all best avoided.
Listen to good acoustic music whether it's modern or traditional.
1. Yes indeed brother, you can begin to walk the Path at any time.
2. Tark-e-Dunya is a gradual process. فورا نہیں آہستہ آہستہ ہوتا ہے
3. If you've been trying for 13 years that's hardly failure: that's success because you've been trying the RIGHT PATH for this time.
4. It's always a struggle, but it does get easier, inshallah.
HOW TO START: It's best to find a Pir. That however is not easy. I'm going to post something on this, inshallah. but for now try these steps
a) stay with wuzu. When you go to the bathroom, come out with wuzu. For this also learn the simple farz wuzu [instead of just the long sunnat one] & avoid drinking water after meals [& also gas-making foods like Gobi, mash ki dal & aaloo :)]
b) Try to pray namaz اول وقت
c) try reading one tasbih of Durud Sharif daily. Pick any short durud which you like.
d) limit internet to a few hours & eliminate TV, except for sports with friends.
e) Eat healthier. try eliminating sugar, black tea/coffee, and cutting down meat. These are all stimulants for the Nafs, and interfere with clear thinking as well as being bad for you.
f) Read more Sufi story books, like تذکرہ الاولیا , مرات الاسرار نفحات الانس etc. Do this at night to relax in place of TV. Buy a small bedside lamp if you have to. These books will inshallah fortify your heart.
PS about old friends: you should meet them but limit the time to one hour or 2 hours etc. After an hour look at your watch & say "Oh my God, I've got something to do, I better run, please excuse me"
In other words, don't cut yourself off, but limit your sohbat.
Hadis sharif: Good company is better than being alone, being alone is better than bad company.
thanks a lot for ur answers i really appreciate it. i have another question which i m having great difficulty to understand. its about predestination and free will.i was reading masnavi ma'navi and there r many places where Maulana Rumi RA oppose's the jabreya and qadreya groups and it is clear that those groups were astray.Maulana tells us that the right way is between them.as Captain Sahib RA explains in kashf al-mahjub that "man is free to do what he wills but he can not will what he wills" in other words Captain Sahib supports the same thing mentioned before in the masnavi.
i was convinced by this theory but then in chapter about the saints in kashf al-mahjub Hazrat Data Sahib RA writes that his Pir said "o my son,i will tell thee one article of belief which,if thou holdest it firmly,will deliver thee from all troubles,whatever good or evil God creates,do not in any place or circumstance quarrel with his action or be aggrieved in thy heart."
then i read tazqara e ghaosiya.i got the impression Harat Ghous Ali Shah RA was in favour of predestination.like he said at some place that it was prepland by God that satan took the fall when he refused to bow down to Hazrat Adam Alaeheislam.that it was his destiny to misguide the human race.(asaide from the question in this book there r many confusing things which u dont find in other books.like satan appears in a different light then what Islam tell us about him and Hazrat Sahib RA praises him on several places like a lover of God and he knew that this was going to happen to him.he educates a Nabi at on place in the book.then there is this whole talk about saints in hindu religion and Hazrat Sahib RA praises them too.that there are sahib e kalam saints in all religions but the only difference is in there methods and saints in hinduisim and islam r like urine and water.but thats a great difference right?they r totally different in there nature.there r so many other confusing things about tazkara e gousiya like what man believes will happen to him in the hereafter and God will not punish the bad people because he loves his creation so much.but still it is Ashfaq Sahib's favourtie book)
then in maqtubat e sadi it is written that "tum yaqeen jano k jo kuch hota hai taqdeer e azli se hota hai"
there r many letters in which Hazrat Makhdoom Sharaf U Din RA writes what sounds more like in favour of predestination.
now predestination is the same belief which puts the jabriya firqa out of islam.on one hand the sufis say one thing and then quite the opposite?i know that i m not understanding it very well because Captain Sahib mention this in kashf al mahjub that this whole thing is difficult for ordinary people to understand but since i read this predestination stuff it in not geting out of my head.
one thing that i could grasp was that when the sufis talk about predestination they observe God doing all the actions in aalam e nasoot.like u throw a stone towards a dog,dog gets u not the stone.and its quite obvious that they jabriya firqa only believe in this theory.its not there muqam like sufis.reality changes on different stages.in aalam e nasoot u have to act according to the laws unlike aalam e lahoot where there is nothing but God.but still things r getting mix up because of the contradiction.i was convinced with masnavvi and the sha'ria but then the kashf ul-mahjub's statment really confused me.if u believe that God is the maker of every good and evil then its Jabr.people r not doing evil,God is making them do it (ma'az allah).so why punish people or the blame game with satan.
my post is again geting bigger.hope u wont mind it.
They're are not really any contradictions in the words of the Auliya, what happens is that something are said in a particular context. Also the saints have different methods for reaching the same goals.
As far as free will & predestination goes, the matter is between them as Imam Jafar said, الامر بین الامرین
Therefore both are correct, or you can equally say both are incorrect. Hence whatever is said is said according to the context.
So if a buzurg speaks to a lazy or complacent murid, he stresses God's Wrath, and if to a despairing murid, he stresses God's Mercy.
When Buzurgs stress predestination it is increase the Murid's trust on God.
When Buzurgs stress free-will it is to increase the Murid's sense of responsibility.
Similarly the 'praise' of Satan in Tazkira Ghousia is based on a principle of the Qalandars called Malamat ملامت ... the Path of Blame.
This means to consider everything & everyone superior to oneself, even the Kafirs & even Satan. This is to weaken one's ego & become humble.
The books should be read for their value in helping us transform. Ultimately one needs a living Guide, a Master, a Murshid.
Bhai, avoid looking for contradictions in the books of the Sufis: there are none.
Regarding punishment in the hereafter, there is no disagreement. Hell is real. So is God's love for His creation. Therefore some people will only go there temporarily for purification. And remember, this they have to, because through Evil they have wronged their own souls.
As God says, I do not wrong you, you wrong yourselves. To put in another way, as Allama Iqbal said, when I visited Hell i was amazed to find it dark & empty. Where were the raging flames? So he was told that the sinners 'bring their own fire.'
The Qur'an also states that the fuel of Hell is 'men & stones'... stones perhaps referring to hardened hearts.
i would like to add one thing (to the post in which you said loud metal music...) actually metal is not about growling or screaming and playing guitar loud but its a gesture...you can find at least a thousand metal songs having no growling or no guitar screeching (from Lord belial to amon amarth to dark funeral to dark throne to ....list goes on)
rizwan bhai...you remeber my email? about my naphews? they are much much better now (Alhamdolillah) but not perfect.
khair, what i want to tell you is that i've been told by some (and i feel it by myself too) that there are some muslim genies associated with me as a friend and they are continuously with me and they often help me (without me noticing it)...so do you know how to make the most of this blessing? i mean how to learn something from them? or how to make them learn something from us the supreme race(the human...ashraf ul makhlooqat)
it might feel odd but the situation i told you about was were serious but even then nothing dangerous or fatal happened at all (Allah ka shukar hey) people say its all because of our genie friends. meaning they are with us as a blessing...so, do you have any suggestion/idea (or...could you ask your seniors/peer sahab)
Thanks dot KOM bhai. Yes the jihad link is a video by Hazrat Pir Naseeruddin Naseer of Golra sharif.
I wouldn't know about the jinns. If anyone has helped you-human or otherwise- then as a gesture of thanks you may recite sura Ikhlas [qul howallah] 3 times & ask Allah to donate the reward to them.
I agree that all metal music is not about Nafs. But most metal is more geared to mind & body, and the aggressive element is predominant. So if someone is struggling they should limit their exposure to it.
It's good to hear that the kids are better. Alhamdolillah!
i tried talking to them and asked them to cure a lady (she was suffering from migraine) and she was fine within 10 minutes...
i'll do as you asked...
yes, i totally agree, most of the metal is satanic and one should avoid it as much as can there are some (whom i dub white metal :D) arent satanists...i am one of them as i also write metal stuff
thanks for the video, watched it last night...peer sahab has something special in his words, some attraction or i should say some sort of gravity in his personality...i am really impressed by his personality
may Allah bless us all
amen
ps: rizwan bhai, kindly post something on dajjal's concept in sufism
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aslam o alyakum brother,
i have some questions.is it possible to walk on the path while you are studying because when ever i try to concentrate more on sufism thoughts come in mind like its a very hard path and u cant focus on your studies while abandoning ur habbits,u need to fresh and calm urself while u r studying.with this struggle my studies are not going well.i try to practice the whole theory about taraq e duniya which is just geting rid of old useless habbits and some times i get succeeded in it,things go smoothly then some things happens like a cousin comes home pay me a visit or i meet with a friend or watch a movie anything like this which is not forbid in islam.after doing that one thing the whole practice of weeks and some times months get destroyed and i again fall in the old habbits.i some times feel so desperate that because of such small things like tv,computers and meaningless friendships i cant walk the path.
it is written in sufi scriptures that in old days it was not allowed to practice the sufi teachings for a student unless he complete his studies.so is it really that difficult to practice sufism while one is a student or is it just a nafsani trap?
one other thing i would like to ask is that it is written in the scriptures that the biggener should not abandon the world at once but do it slowly but this theory does not work in practical life.if one continues to meet old friends or do the same old habbits he will loose his courage or m i not understanding it correctly?
in kemaya e sa'adat it is written and i will wirte the exact urdu words because my english is not that good which u have find out by now :) "nafs ki baaz sifat ghuse se baz narmi se baz guftar se or baz kirdar se mutagaier ho sakti hain" what i m not understanding is that if u left ur habbits like tv or internet once it is important for u to never use them again because i read it somewhere that nafs is like a goat,if u dont check it and left it for a second it will go miles backward.
another thing is from maqtubat e sadi i think that nafs is like a hawk,u should colse its eyes with a cloth and shut it in a dark room, then feed it once in a while.now what does that mean?that u should give it some of the things that it adore or what?
i some times think that i m not worthy of the company of those saints.i m reading there books since my teenage days but the path is still as dark as it was back then.some times i think to let it go because there r special people for every field and after 11 or 12 years of failure i m not one of them or i dont have the same intense love that the shaikhs have which drive them forwards.
its such a long post and my questions r so confuse.i never share my thoughts with anyone and i m feeling sorry to take so much of ur precious time but i hope u will answer my questions in detail.
God bless u brother.
Mr. Anonymous...
though your post is very long but i really appreciate your questions, i mean, i also dont know how to get rid of my bad habbits, been trying so hard since long but...in vain
i would like to add some more questions in addition to yours...
1- what is the concept of sufism about music (its evident that many of our sufis and auliyas (A.S) have been linkedwith /known for music and/or musical instruments as well as poetry.
2- it is said that sufism is not practical rather philosophical (like greeks as an example) meaning it is said that they are not actively involved in jehad or other movements (which i dont believe is true as we have the example of Sayed Ahmed Shaheed R.A)
3- what is music by the way? imho its a way of communication NOT a luxury, its a way of expression like poetry (i believe, koi cheez haram nahi hoti lekin us ka estemal us cheez ko halal ya haram banata hey)
Jazak Allah
as salam alaykum dot KOM,
1. I've already posted the Sufis's opinion about music in detail here
http://cyclewalabanda.blogspot.com/2008/01/sufi-music.html
2. You are right about Jihad, aside from Sayed Shaheed we have Imam Shamil, Shaykh Abdal Qadir & many other figures. The Sufis' conception of Jihad in Islam is given in a talk on this blog here: http://cyclewalabanda.blogspot.com/2008/12/sufism-jihad-by-hazrat-pir-naserruddin.html
3. Music is expression. Man is made up of mind body & soul, so through music he can express either or all of these 3, in different proportions.
Once again your opinion echoes that of the Auliya who say, the content & context of the music makes it good or bad.
I would add however, that loud electric music, hard rock, electronic/techno music, commercial music, disco, Hindi filmi music & pop etc. are all best avoided.
Listen to good acoustic music whether it's modern or traditional.
-jazak Allah
to Anonymous brother:
wa alaykum assalam!
1. Yes indeed brother, you can begin to walk the Path at any time.
2. Tark-e-Dunya is a gradual process.
فورا نہیں آہستہ آہستہ ہوتا ہے
3. If you've been trying for 13 years that's hardly failure: that's success because you've been trying the RIGHT PATH for this time.
4. It's always a struggle, but it does get easier, inshallah.
HOW TO START:
It's best to find a Pir. That however is not easy. I'm going to post something on this, inshallah. but for now try these steps
a) stay with wuzu.
When you go to the bathroom, come out with wuzu.
For this also learn the simple farz wuzu [instead of just the long sunnat one] & avoid drinking water after meals [& also gas-making foods like Gobi, mash ki dal & aaloo :)]
b) Try to pray namaz اول وقت
c) try reading one tasbih of Durud Sharif daily. Pick any short durud which you like.
d) limit internet to a few hours & eliminate TV, except for sports with friends.
e) Eat healthier. try eliminating sugar, black tea/coffee, and cutting down meat. These are all stimulants for the Nafs, and interfere with clear thinking as well as being bad for you.
f) Read more Sufi story books, like تذکرہ الاولیا ,
مرات الاسرار
نفحات الانس etc. Do this at night to relax in place of TV. Buy a small bedside lamp if you have to. These books will inshallah fortify your heart.
God bless & may God give us success.
PS about old friends: you should meet them but limit the time to one hour or 2 hours etc. After an hour look at your watch & say "Oh my God, I've got something to do, I better run, please excuse me"
In other words, don't cut yourself off, but limit your sohbat.
Hadis sharif: Good company is better than being alone, being alone is better than bad company.
aslam o alyakum brother,
thanks a lot for ur answers i really appreciate it.
i have another question which i m having great difficulty to understand.
its about predestination and free will.i was reading masnavi ma'navi and there r many places where Maulana Rumi RA oppose's the jabreya and qadreya groups and it is clear that those groups were astray.Maulana tells us that the right way is between them.as Captain Sahib RA explains in kashf al-mahjub that "man is free to do what he wills but he can not will what he wills" in other words Captain Sahib supports the same thing mentioned before in the masnavi.
i was convinced by this theory but then in chapter about the saints in kashf al-mahjub Hazrat Data Sahib RA writes that his Pir said "o my son,i will tell thee one article of belief which,if thou holdest it firmly,will deliver thee from all troubles,whatever good or evil God creates,do not in any place or circumstance quarrel with his action or be aggrieved in thy heart."
then i read tazqara e ghaosiya.i got the impression Harat Ghous Ali Shah RA was in favour of predestination.like he said at some place that it was prepland by God that satan took the fall when he refused to bow down to Hazrat Adam Alaeheislam.that it was his destiny to misguide the human race.(asaide from the question in this book there r many confusing things which u dont find in other books.like satan appears in a different light then what Islam tell us about him and Hazrat Sahib RA praises him on several places like a lover of God and he knew that this was going to happen to him.he educates a Nabi at on place in the book.then there is this whole talk about saints in hindu religion and Hazrat Sahib RA praises them too.that there are sahib e kalam saints in all religions but the only difference is in there methods and saints in hinduisim and islam r like urine and water.but thats a great difference right?they r totally different in there nature.there r so many other confusing things about tazkara e gousiya like what man believes will happen to him in the hereafter and God will not punish the bad people because he loves his creation so much.but still it is Ashfaq Sahib's favourtie book)
then in maqtubat e sadi it is written that "tum yaqeen jano k jo kuch hota hai taqdeer e azli se hota hai"
there r many letters in which Hazrat Makhdoom Sharaf U Din RA writes what sounds more like in favour of predestination.
now predestination is the same belief which puts the jabriya firqa out of islam.on one hand the sufis say one thing and then quite the opposite?i know that i m not understanding it very well because Captain Sahib mention this in kashf al mahjub that this whole thing is difficult for ordinary people to understand but since i read this predestination stuff it in not geting out of my head.
one thing that i could grasp was that when the sufis talk about predestination they observe God doing all the actions in aalam e nasoot.like u throw a stone towards a dog,dog gets u not the stone.and its quite obvious that they jabriya firqa only believe in this theory.its not there muqam like sufis.reality changes on different stages.in aalam e nasoot u have to act according to the laws unlike aalam e lahoot where there is nothing but God.but still things r getting mix up because of the contradiction.i was convinced with masnavvi and the sha'ria but then the kashf ul-mahjub's statment really confused me.if u believe that God is the maker of every good and evil then its Jabr.people r not doing evil,God is making them do it (ma'az allah).so why punish people or the blame game with satan.
my post is again geting bigger.hope u wont mind it.
Allah Hafiz
wa alaykum as salam Brother Anonymous,
They're are not really any contradictions in the words of the Auliya, what happens is that something are said in a particular context. Also the saints have different methods for reaching the same goals.
As far as free will & predestination goes, the matter is between them as Imam Jafar said,
الامر بین الامرین
Therefore both are correct, or you can equally say both are incorrect. Hence whatever is said is said according to the context.
So if a buzurg speaks to a lazy or complacent murid, he stresses God's Wrath, and if to a despairing murid, he stresses
God's Mercy.
When Buzurgs stress predestination it is increase the Murid's trust on God.
When Buzurgs stress free-will it is to increase the Murid's sense of responsibility.
Similarly the 'praise' of Satan in Tazkira Ghousia is based on a principle of the Qalandars called Malamat ملامت ... the Path of Blame.
This means to consider everything & everyone superior to oneself, even the Kafirs & even Satan.
This is to weaken one's ego & become humble.
The books should be read for their value in helping us transform. Ultimately one needs a living Guide, a Master, a Murshid.
Bhai, avoid looking for contradictions in the books of the Sufis: there are none.
Regarding punishment in the hereafter, there is no disagreement. Hell is real. So is God's love for His creation. Therefore some people will only go there temporarily for purification. And remember, this they have to, because through Evil they have wronged their own souls.
As God says, I do not wrong you, you wrong yourselves. To put in another way, as Allama Iqbal said, when I visited Hell i was amazed to find it dark & empty. Where were the raging flames? So he was told that the sinners 'bring their own fire.'
The Qur'an also states that the fuel of Hell is 'men & stones'... stones perhaps referring to hardened hearts.
I hope this clears your confusion, inshallah.
God knows best.
aoa,
rizwan bhai...thanks for providing links
i would like to add one thing (to the post in which you said loud metal music...) actually metal is not about growling or screaming and playing guitar loud but its a gesture...you can find at least a thousand metal songs having no growling or no guitar screeching (from Lord belial to amon amarth to dark funeral to dark throne to ....list goes on)
thanks again for your detailed input.
jazak Allah
assalam o alaikum,
rizwan bhai...you remeber my email? about my naphews? they are much much better now (Alhamdolillah) but not perfect.
khair, what i want to tell you is that i've been told by some (and i feel it by myself too) that there are some muslim genies associated with me as a friend and they are continuously with me and they often help me (without me noticing it)...so do you know how to make the most of this blessing? i mean how to learn something from them? or how to make them learn something from us the supreme race(the human...ashraf ul makhlooqat)
it might feel odd but the situation i told you about was were serious but even then nothing dangerous or fatal happened at all (Allah ka shukar hey) people say its all because of our genie friends. meaning they are with us as a blessing...so, do you have any suggestion/idea (or...could you ask your seniors/peer sahab)
it will be a favour to me
Jazak Allah
bhai, that Jihad link you provided is not oopening properly...i mean, no post is there (but two comments are visible), is it a video link?
Thanks dot KOM bhai. Yes the jihad link is a video by Hazrat Pir Naseeruddin Naseer of Golra sharif.
I wouldn't know about the jinns. If anyone has helped you-human or otherwise- then as a gesture of thanks you may recite sura Ikhlas [qul howallah] 3 times & ask Allah to donate the reward to them.
I agree that all metal music is not about Nafs. But most metal is more geared to mind & body, and the aggressive element is predominant. So if someone is struggling they should limit their exposure to it.
It's good to hear that the kids are better. Alhamdolillah!
God bless.
:) sir jee, a good news
i tried talking to them and asked them to cure a lady (she was suffering from migraine) and she was fine within 10 minutes...
i'll do as you asked...
yes, i totally agree, most of the metal is satanic and one should avoid it as much as can there are some (whom i dub white metal :D) arent satanists...i am one of them as i also write metal stuff
thanks for the video, watched it last night...peer sahab has something special in his words, some attraction or i should say some sort of gravity in his personality...i am really impressed by his personality
may Allah bless us all
amen
ps: rizwan bhai, kindly post something on dajjal's concept in sufism
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